So as long as you actively murder the bosses, you’ll quickly get to zones where the golden chests won’t die that quickly.īhaal+Frag build cannot be apply to a thusia+pluto build. > When using skills, you do \>60x as much damage as you do without skills even if you get all the +3% crit upgrades. > Certainly you can ignore the +3% crit chance upgrades to use golden clicks better, but I’ve never found the need to. So as long as you actively murder the bosses, you’ll quickly get to zones where the golden chests won’t die that quickly. When using skills, you do \>60x as much damage as you do without skills even if you get all the +3% crit upgrades. > one thing about using bhaal this way, you kinda need to ignore the +3% crit chance upgrades because otherwise you’ll kill the chest **long** before the 30 seconds are over.Ĭertainly you can ignore the +3% crit chance upgrades to use golden clicks better, but I’ve never found the need to. > And everyone should get either Siya (idle play) or Bhaal (active play) very early on, so you will never need thusia. So again you can spam the hell out of the golden clicks on a treasure chest without needing Thusia. Which means unless you activate Lucky strikes, nothing will die (because you’re about 50 zones ahead of where you would be without Bhaal). to the point where you do no damage at all (in comparison to the zone you should be on) when you don’t critical. > Bhaal boosts your crit multiplier to ridiculous levels. > Siyalatas boosts your DPS while you’re not clicking, so the moment you click with golden clicks your damage falls to nothing (in comparison to the zone you should be on) and you get to spam golden clicks forever on the chest. > If you want your treasure chests to live long enough for golden clicks, both Bhaal and Siyalatas can give you that in addition to being awesome: which is actually only a few ascensions away. Morgulis is useful, later on you’ll have more souls banked than last ancient cost\*10, even though he’ll be the **last** ancient i buy (i’m not even going to touch thusia) i’ll have **far** more than the 250k HS it’ll take to break even by that time. I would prefer at least 14 other anceints off the top of my head. We are both arguing about how they are both pretty bad compared to many other bosses. Again I rated him as a low ancient as well. > Yes I can gain minutes for myself because my idle can clear an extra boss before I have to come back and spend my idle gold and level up heroes. He is not useless….he is almost useless….he will eventually benefit you but I think the other anceints are better making him much worse at the price. > There are probably 14 anceints I would get before Morgulis making him a very unattractive buy at that cost. Yes I can gain minutes for myself because my idle can clear an extra boss before I have to come back and spend my idle gold and level up heroes. There are probably 14 anceints I would get before Morgulis making him a very unattractive buy at that cost. > So not in idling, which was your original argument for him. > Where he shines is if you are not quick ascending then it all comes down to skills and DR eventually. > You won’t be gaining minutes each run with Chronos. Another minute here…another minute there….so it is ok. > With Chronus I can ignore the game for longer when fast leveling. Each time you buy a new ancient, you make Morgulis worse. Your last post asked “how many ancients would you buy before him?”, but that’s not all that matters. > buying a bad one early will cost you later for each ancient you buy.
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